Monday, November 06, 2006

Ekos poll: part 2

Unlike one blogger, I don't think Rae has this one sown up. I mean, page 14 of the report is enough to tell you that. As much as people like to say they like Rae as their second choice, when down to him or Iggy, it's a really tough choice.

If I wasn't so busy the next few days/weeks, I'd love to parse through everything in big detail, making my own conclusions. Unfortunately, I don't have that time, so here are some other points from this:
- Undecideds are very high for second/third choices. From that, we can't really extrapolate that 60% of Dion's supporters would go Rae if Dion dropped out. If those 39% follow Dion if he went to endorse Kennedy, for example, then that's a big swing.

- We can't equate the 2 tables of showing up and first ballot support, since I'm sure if you broke it down, of those who said they probably won't show up to the convention, probably 90% of them are also those who don't support their candidate anymore.

- However, very good news that Kennedy ranks highest among those who feel they will show and among those who still support him. We may not be the largest contingent, but we're sure as hell the most passionate ones.

- The lower contenders have much higher rates of undecided second choices than the top ones. 2 possible things we could read from that: they're keeping a tight lip or they're going to follow their leader. You'd think by now they'd have decided who to support, since they know their candidate won't win. By that, it's going to be big to get those endorsements, then.

- Even if Dion is a bit ahead in the "growth potential", when you count up to 3rd choice, you're adding errors together, so your MOE goes to about 4%, which when you actually count it up in percentage points, ends up being nearly the difference between Dion and Kennedy. Now, maybe my math might be off by a bit, but it's still very close between those 4 at the top. And when you factor in that you've got 30-40% undecided for 2nd and 3rd ballot support, there's a lot of delegates in play.

- I don't like how for "least favourite" they only seemed to ask people about 1 person. It should have been a "list everyone who you do not want to win". I'm pretty sure there are many people who said "Volpe" who might also not want Iggy or Rae to win.

That's my main take on it for now. Sure, the poll looks nice for Dion, but there's still way too much uncertainty. I think it's gonna be huge who the bottom 4 end up supporting. It's gonna be an intense time when we get down to 4 people. Somewhat interestingly, when we get to that point, and down to the last ballot, we're gonna see a lot of completely hammered Dion or Kennedy delegates, which could make for some interesting choices (hey, if Hedy Fry can get a vote in our riding when people are presumably sober, what will happen when the drunks get to voting?).

7 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Is that what happens at conventions like this? Everyone's drunk by the 4th ballot?

S.K. said...

Dion and Kennedy are essentially tied which is clear after second choice vs. showing up is factored in. Neither has the backing or the delegate support to propel the other over the top. Especially Dion for Kennedy. Dion delegates will not bck Kennedy en masse. Sorry they just won't and every polital pundit in Canada says that. Kennedy definately can't get passed Rae if he beats Dion, even with Dion's endorsement.

Anonymous said...

Why is the personal life of Shoshana relevant in this blog? Someone out there keeps putting in this stuff about her at every opportune moment, but everyone now already knows.

This has nothing to do with the EKOS polls.

UWHabs said...

I agree that personal lives of random bloggers shouldn't matter. Let's keep this political.

Say Dion drops off. All his delegates will have to choose between Rae, Kennedy, and Iggy. They may not say right now that they like Kennedy that much, but when it comes down to it, I think lots of them are also solidly in the "anybody but Rae and Iggy" camp. There's still lots than can happen, but I don't think it's out of the question that Dion or Kennedy delegates will swing to each other.

Concerned Albertan said...

By attacking Shoshana's character, you are destorying her "Rae has won" argument by not attacking the argument itself, but the presenter of the argument.

By attacking the presenter, you end up destorying some of the legitimacy of their argument, while the person opposing you attempts to defend themselves, and does not have time to attack you.

By not loosing, you have in fact won. If you have seen thankyou for smoking, you should know its argument not negotiation.

Altavistagoogle said...

"1+3=5 . I should know because I teach biology. You morons. Rae will win."

That sums up Shoshana's post.